The Village Vendor

Feedback system/ dispute system

     I would like to offer a few thoughts on the feedback/dispute system as employed by Ebay. First, I think it is a laudable idea that the site wants to protect both buyers and sellers in their transactions.  In some respects, the system is about as \good an idea as possible for this particular forum.  The problem is that the system is misused and abused by a few unscrupulous people who use it to extort various concessions from their trading partner.  I recently had such a dispute,in which I paid for an item that was never delivered.  Well, after the item not received dispute was over, and I had received my refund, imagine my shock when the selfsame seller made an unpaid item dispute against me!  It took numerous emails to resolve, and needless to say untold stress.  And as to the strike system, I believe it is patently unfair to put a buyer in a position where only the seller can remove a strike.  I believe that there should be some reform to the system where an impartial third party can be allowed to hear the dispute, and basically act as arbitrators.  I know about Square Deal, what I'm talking about is a less formal means by which differences between trading partners can be resolved without going through the time and expense of going to a professional mediator.  If negative feedback is going to be given, let there be some specific examples of the party's grievance.  Instead of "worst customer ever" say something like failed to pay for the item within the time frame provided, or whatever the case may be.  Not only does this give the party a chance to know exactly what the problem is, it prevents at least to a certain extent abuse and retaliation by the leaving of vague, unspecific and in most cases unsubstantiated character attacks on a person, which then become part of their member profile.  Even in our court system, fatally flawed as it is, there are specific appeals which are available.  In summary, if I mess up something in my business, I will take responsibility and do the best I can to make ammends.  But that is hardly possible when the feedback is vague and unspecific, made for the sole purpose of retaliation,

mountainmagik
The seller must do the unpaid item dispute (after a refund) in order to recoup the final value fee from eBay. The seller opens the dispute and then closes it as "mutually agreed not to complete the transaction".....the buyer must also agree to this....once this is done. The seller receives a FVF credit and the buyer does NOT receive an unpaid strike.
Jan-03-07 13:34:16 PST Report this comment
crazy_mooz
I look into Square Deal one time because of an untrue neg feedback. They wanted way too much money to look into the case.
The one time I got the neg was a buyer with only 3 feedbacks.
The two time for a neut., buyer where under 6 feedbacks. All three where newbies.
If you watch the blogs many sellers tell you the same story that the neg came from newbies.
I wish there was a easier solution.
Maybe just a successful number count on sales by sellers name. Also you would have to include unsuccessful number count. Same for buyers. No words left.
JMPO
Jan-03-07 13:39:36 PST Report this comment
rr*sweet*boutique*
I completely agree. I think that you should be able to leave a sweet positive comment of your choice, but when it comes to negatives, I feel that there should be like 15 available comments to choose from. This would help to end the lies and assassination of character. Simple things like: slow shipping, item not as described, item not received, non-paying bidder, unresponsive and so on. No more of the "worst I've ever dealt with", "don't buy here", or "liar". Feedback should not be so personal. I do believe that we have all been angry and left feedback that we may regret later.
Jan-03-07 13:39:50 PST Report this comment
crazy_mooz
Does ebay not state keep it to facts and not personal?
Something like that.
Not sure of the correct wording.
Jan-03-07 13:42:54 PST Report this comment
rr*sweet*boutique*
crazy: problem being that E-Bay has good rules that are not enforced and stupid rules that they always have eyes on.
Jan-03-07 13:44:54 PST Report this comment
crazy_mooz
And Jeff, do you really work for ebay?
How can we be sure.
We run into fakes here all the time.
Nothing personal, just making sure.
Jan-03-07 13:49:37 PST Report this comment
kalamazooclipper
Or, my favorite--rules you don't even know exist! You "break" them, and off with your head!

I do agree that there needs to be an appeal system! I received a neutral once because the buyer gave a bad address, and it took a month for the post office to return the mail...all of which is my fault, of course!

I like the idea of a list to select from when giving out neutrals & negatives! That sounds like a viable change that eBay could live with!
Jan-03-07 13:55:46 PST Report this comment
jeff450_3
I'm a seller just like most of you, who has been the recent victom of character assasination in flagrant abuse of the dispute system. I dont work for Ebay, no. Im just a selfemployed person trying to make an honest living.
Jan-03-07 14:16:20 PST Report this comment

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