Feedback Blackmail
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Mutual Withdrawal Is Blackmail

I spent over $800 with Dealtree Auctions buying jvc 540 watt stereos for my surround system. I had 3 bad ones out of the 8, and needed to trade them (exchange) for good ones that work. But they refused. Claimed that they tested them, obviously they did not. So I left them bad feedback, because they deserve it. Next thing I know they are leaving me retaliatory bad feedback with a lie as reason. Bad feedback for giving them money the same day I won the auctions. They also send me an email telling me that they left bad feedback against me because I left bad feedback for them, and they are offering a mutual feedback withdrawal. These are certainly the type of people that need bad feedback. They are like snakes, trying to wriggle out of responsibility. I like snakes though, but you get my point. So I give them $800 and not only do I get junk that doesn't work, I get blackmailed to withdraw my negative feedback against them. Just another reason to stand my ground and accept my less than 100% rateing. There is nothing mutual about being blackmailed, in fact, Dealtree Auctions should be banned from Ebay altogether. And all the negative feedback that they gave to people should also be wiped out from Ebay. So It Is Written, So Shall IT Be Done.
love_beyond_reason
did you withdraw it??? i wouldnt have. if i have to leave a neg now. i put in the comment space POTENTIAL BUYERS EMAIL ME FOR FULL DETAILS. and leave it at that. so when they leave retalitory i respond w/ HOW DO YOU ARRIVE AT FB BY WHAT I LEFT? which really makes them look dumb! even if you withdraw it the comments are still there. and i look at what the sellers response is to neg fb not the amount of neg fb. jmo
Dec-15-06 16:06:29 PST Report this comment
coramarieboutique
Good Evening and Happy Holidays.
Dec-15-06 16:06:32 PST Report this comment
mtcoffinz
I bought my son a b-day gift from dealtree, and won it at a low price. I guess they weren't happy with the sale price so they never shipped it and never answered my email. But they were very fast to answer the Paypal dispute with a made up delivery confirmation number (in fact they used a word instead of a number).
Dec-15-06 16:09:36 PST Report this comment
chuckiebabies
Did you pay via paypal?
Dec-15-06 16:12:27 PST Report this comment
timrogersband
Yes I did Paypal, and left in good faith positive feedback for 7 of the 8. I could open a dispute, and I am curently thinking about doing that for the one item at least. It takes a while to hook up all those wires on 8 stereos, even finding a place for them was hard to do in this rented house trailer. Plus I work 12 hours a day so the weekends are the only time I have to test them. It was over a week from the time I got them to the time I even opened the boxes on some of them, plus I had to install a new dryer and other errands before I could hook up the stereos and test them. It was within 30 days before I discovered that something was wrong with 3 of the 8.
And no, I won't withdraw my negative feedback against them.
I have more details about my emails with their customer support. One person told me to copy and paste a certain email (eplaining why it took longer than 7 days to test them) to an RMA, but another person told me that they wouldn't accept my RMA because it was after 7 days.
Dec-15-06 16:32:55 PST Report this comment
blujayvee
Therein lies the problem with the 'feedback' system and my complaint exactly. I have reported several times about the dislikes of how the 'feedback' system works. eBay constantly suggest you 'read' comments and base your purchases on this as much as you can, unfortunately I didn't do that when I began buying and frankly did not realize the value of comments. That said, now when I read comments, I am wondering how much is accurate, and consequently asking myself, 'really, how much does this help the consumer?'. Very little is the answer. I have only sold one item but I posted immediately upon receiving payment. It is a very frustrating system and obviously it is a quid-pro-quo.
Dec-15-06 16:39:15 PST Report this comment
gymmomj
You mmay open a paypal dispute for an item received not as described. They will force the seller to reund you.
Dec-15-06 16:51:25 PST Report this comment
jtdrad
I would deal with bad fb. Then go file a dispute with paypal and also report them to ebay, 800.00 is alot of money for someone to just suck you out of.
Dec-15-06 17:10:46 PST Report this comment
madcat1010
30 days past before you complained to the seller? Well, honestly, most sellers WOULD be a bit suspicious after that length of time! My opinion is that it was the length of time before you complained that made him wary of doing an exchange or refund. Now, I don't want to excuse the seller of responsibility OR his mistreatment of you BUT there are two points of view here and scammers abound on BOTH sides of transactions. Depending on what his refund policy is, regardless of your time schedules, other issues with testing these items, it should always be a top priority to make sure that you got what you paid for....immediately.
Dec-15-06 17:38:42 PST Report this comment
pbbass3313
I am about to run into the same situation with diggable123. Ran across your "Fast refund" in doing "research" on this seller.

Do you feel "fast refund" still constitutes a positive? Like you, I gave on with similar comments, but I'm not happy about why I had to get a refund or how it was treated. I feel an item was put out for bid, it's put out for bid. In addition, the item I "had won" and paid IMMEDIATELY and never received, was posted as "Buy NOW or Best Offer" with a quantity of (24) showing...hmmmmmmmm.

Anyways, live and learn, but I will be more careful on WHO I bid with and as far as music equipment goes (and I hope I'm not offending you on this), if I want new, it's through Sweetwater, American Musical, or some other on-line catalog dealer - definitely NOT a "diggable123 - like" seller.

Nuff sed.
Mar-24-07 13:30:01 PDT Report this comment
pampyinn
Alot of sellers say they wont refund, but if its broken paypal will help you get all of your money back and if not you can always appeal.
I once told a lady who had perfect feedback that the feedback system cannot be trusted. Because in order to continue receiving positive feedback, sellers and buyers falsely report that the transaction went smoothly. When in fact there was slow shipping, lies, and alot of broken items that the seller sends and if you dont want retaliation, then you dont say anything. ITs wrong and it doesnt work.
I have recently said I DONT CARE and have let my sellers have it.
What people have told me to do is just buy under another name and let the sellers have it, do not buy as a seller. Sell as a seller and buy as a buyer. That way if anything goes wrong you have a throwaway ID. I havent tried it but it sounds like a good idea as protection against a messed up system of lies.
Apr-15-07 17:37:56 PDT Report this comment
buyadeal
Honestly, I don't see the big deal here. If a seller says you've got 7 days to report and problems then you should make sure you check it out within 7 days!. Even if you contacted them within a couple weeks it might be reasonable, but 30 days??

If I was the seller I would think you used the item for a month, brkoe it yourself, and then called them to try and get them to take back something you broke!

If you want a 30-day return period, then buy it from Sears or Best Buy. They both give you 30 days.
Sep-20-07 20:22:51 PDT Report this comment

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