TJ's Silent Blog!!! Where is my grape jelly????

Here we go again!!! Feedback debate is on blog now!!! Here is what I believe & why!!

Repost from beginning of March

Biggest debate is who should leave feedback first.  I used to leave feedback first as soon as I shipped it.  I wanted to do it and felt it was right thing to do, until I started getting negative saying that she didn't get her shipment after 6 business days (she was newbies), shipping was too high and didn't matter that I only made $2.00 on it, so someone who try to scam me by taking money from paypal after 4 days and it was already shipped.  There are people who will say not get their items and surprised to find that it was all perfume that I have send.  I been scammed before when someone brought 9 perfumes and made claim to paypal and suddenly no longer a ebay member.  I gotten negative from someone who claimed she didn't get anything and deliver confirmation said it was deliver.  She said she received an empty package which contain 3 perfumes but it said deliver.  The 3 negative I got from her was not deserve especially when she contact me over 1 month when the package was deliver to complain it was empty.  Why didn't she open it up when she first received it and email me.  This doesn't sound honest to me.  I didn't know what to do by then and wonder how do I protect myself so I contact ebay and their advice to me was to leave feedback after buyer leave feedback because they are scammer out there.  So I set up a rule about feedback.  If I get a negative and it was really my fault, do not leave a negative.  If I get a neutral, and it is my fault do not leave negative or neutral. 

But if I get negative or neutral about shipping costs, shipping took too long when I got it out within 4 business days, saying not received their items when deliver confirmation said deliver, or if someone just want to be rude and use vulgar language and leave negative feedback just because they feel like it is not going to get a positive feedback from me.  Noone should have to put up with abuse that some buyer will do.  I get horrible email from them.  My last one was because she told me I was wrong about business days and I talked to people about it and told me that I was right not her.  She was upset cuz she pay Friday and I shipped it Tuesday morning and she said it should have been shipped on Monday.  And then to have dozens of email telling me how horrible I am.  Some people actually enjoyed doing this and I do not know why. 

Also, you have to deal with controlling buyer. One time, I was behind cuz I got sick but my policy is when I do not get their items out, they get a free gift.  That week, I gave out a lot of free gifts and this buyer email me and I told her it is already packaged and will be shipped out tomorrow and you are getting a free gift.  She asked if it I will shipped it priority even though she not pay for it.  I thought that was a fair request because I was late.  The next day, I notify her that it been shipped and going thru priority and suddenly she email me one after another saying how horrible and that I am getting a negative feedback.  She waited until I shipped it priority which she didn't pay for and trapped me.  Then she said in the feedback that the lid was crack when it was new and sealed.  I went thru tradesquare and said does not want to replace cuz she can still use it.  I check her feedback and she made same complaint to someone that it was broken or crack.  Does this sound like a honest buyer????  I do have refund policy.  I cannot tell you some of the people will do and I was shocked to find how many dishonest ebayer out there.  I just want to sell to honest buyer and to communicate. 

I have see some horrible feedback left to buyer too.  I hate to see seller leaving negative because buyer asked for a feedback.  That person is a jerk.  I have no problem with buyer asking me to leave feedback.  I may be busy and I tend to leave feedback every other night but they didn't deserve a negative for it. I have see many unfair negative that was left by seller and so far I been lucky that I have not been scam by seller. 

Another thing that seller can do and it is honest.  Always send email to notify that their items have been shipped even if you were late.  If I was late, I always tell them sorry and tell them that a free gift have been added.  Buyer appreciate seller being honest.  They can be very understanding and enjoyed getting free gift too!

serrebro
Hi!
i do what i have to do.
what ever the other one do!!!???
do it.
Mar-30-07 18:14:39 PDT Report this comment
oldbarntradingco
The new twist is this...buyer wins, buyers pays via Paypal eCheck, wait for check to clear. Seller ships item, receives e-mail 2 days later that the funds have been reversed from Paypal account.

Had seller left feedback - they would be out the products, the funds, the shipping costs and receive a negative because it took too long to ship.
Mar-30-07 18:17:13 PDT Report this comment
4343martino
Hi..tjs..are you in orlando ???
Mar-30-07 18:17:52 PDT Report this comment
metzymom
I don't leave FB until a transaction is complete for the simple reason that if something does go awry, buyers, especially new buyers, will not be so quick to leave neg FB before contacting me. Paying is not the only responsibility of the buyer, just as listing it and shipping it is not the only responsibility of the seller. Until a shop customer leaves the store with their purchase in their hands, the transaction is not finished. We're talking about a complete transaction, not each side of it. There are too many losers out in eBayland looking to ruin FB scores and too many Newbies who don't understand that a seller will make it right if it was their fault, but that some things are beyond our control (USPS delivery times for example). What about the guy who didn't read the listing correctly? How can a seller know that the buyer read it correctly (deemed as the buyer's responsibility, but we know they don't always read the listing right) until they receive the item and are happy? Besides, if you really think about it, what kind of FB would a seller honestly be able to give? If they pay the first day, Positive is a gimmee. What about day 2 or 3? Still positive? Depends on the seller's payment policy. Day 4 or 5? Neutral? Day 6 or 7? I have a 7 day policy, but some sellers (tickets to events for example) need payment the same day for an event that may be happening the next day. So do they break it down into hours? There is no making everyone happy. Each person, whether a buyer or a seller, has to do what is right for them. We each have to look in our own mirror and decide which way works best for us. I think it's awfully small minded for someone else to determine how I should run my business, especially when I'm not having any problems or ticking anyone off as I go. My customers seem to understand how I do FB and it doesn't bother them
Mar-30-07 18:18:47 PDT Report this comment
tjsttng
Fine! Enjoying the cool weather that we seldom get!! All windows open and no AC!!!! Love good old fashion cooling system. Smell more fresh! I miss that when I live in Rochester, NY.
Mar-30-07 18:19:23 PDT Report this comment
serrebro
you wait until the bank clears it
Mar-30-07 18:19:38 PDT Report this comment
madcat1010
I used to leave immediate feedback as well until I saw that some few buyers, particularly newbies, would attempt to manipulate undeserved refunds, negotiate terms AFTER the sale, etc. And once I received that first retaliatory negative from a nonpaying buyer....I said never again.

Unless I know a customer from repeat business, I will not leave feedback at payment. You just don't know who you're dealing with.
Mar-30-07 18:20:10 PDT Report this comment
oldbarntradingco
serrebro ( 113) View items for sale
you wait until the bank clears it

If you will READ what I wrote, "wait for check to clear." I did wait for check to clear.

Thank goodness it was an honest person who sent a money order - yep a real one, I called it in when I got it.
Mar-30-07 18:24:04 PDT Report this comment
karent8816
i had my frustration to with a buyer from he--- she kept harassing me and emailing me where is my refund she just wanted me to send it back twice i told her paypal sent her the invoice and it said it went thru she still kept persisting she didn't get her money i finally told her paypal has the invoice my bank has a statement saying the money was taken out and now my lawyer will have a statement too.... now i had the last word i haven't heard from her again. she will not scam me or intimidate. i would have sued her too i don't care i sent her the money and she still wanted more still lying. well paypal and my bank and myself do not lie. she is the witch.
Mar-30-07 18:25:20 PDT Report this comment
karent8816
let me just add another note delivery confirmation does not mean they got it it just means it was delivered signature confirmation means they have it and you have your name on a piece of paper so no fraud is involved pay the 1.35 for it.
Mar-30-07 18:28:12 PDT Report this comment

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